Hopefully the airline industry does not change their uniform policies so much. That was 3 years ago. As a loyal and consummate traveler with United, I prefer the formal look of all customer facing employees of United and for that matter all airlines. Leave the brass dance pole at home.. Oh my god almost this whole thread is wretched old people forgetting that they get on a flight to simply travel somewhere else. If you dont set standards, the least common denominator will prevail. Flight attendants will be allowed to have As long as United hires the best and most qualified people to maintain safety, I dont care what they wear. Get over it. These modernized and more inclusive appearance standards are intended to promote a supportive, encouraging, and positive environment for employees and customers alike, creating moments for employees to connect with customers on a more personal level. The company I worked for put a stop to that for a while in the 80's. Most of my tattoos can be covered but I have a few on my hands that cannot. This is right up there with everyone getting a participant award. Sadly Emirates crews always look way more professional along with a host of other major carriers . Pilot tattoos are a polarizing topic. I rather hear their company treats and pays then fairly and equitably, than just let the wear a nose ring while working. United already stated they will be hiring pilots based on race and gender. I don't envy her role with the tribal "my identity" fad in the midst of it. I worked in the service industry for ten years and looking the part reflects acting the part. Most travelers will agree that employees can feel comfortable with what they ware on their own time - not when my safety depends on their professional actions. Having visible tattoos might. Negotiations continue. Are Pilots Allowed To Have Tattoos? Bloody nonsense. Take it easy, enjoy life and each other, And whats going to happen when all the airlines do that? You need some serious mental intervention! Now, in some cases, you would think differently of that officer. They took the Payroll Protection money while they fired employees en masse for random crap, like catching COVID & not being able to work right away, Not wearing masks while eating. I am spending my money and they work for me and for the other customers. Why are big companies caving in to this crap? Yep, you guessed it! I've found the new Era of flight attendants to be rude and lazy. Will Quality and personalism be at its highest or this Just will be another way to be inclusive, because all lives matter in a crash you will be inclusive inclusively bonded together by blood, This is NOT a good thing. Less leg room, more charges, etc. All one needs to do is visit large retail chains to get a look at expression. Canofworms. Hopefully you will find an airline/sporting event that suit your sensitivities. What is a participant award? Before that I worked as an airport departure supervisor on a focus city for a large European carrier. And dont even start me on the whole unshaved underarm and ladies with full leg of hair ! Hello my name is Kaulin. Back when people traveled they all dressed properly and looked sharp, YES THE CUSTOMERS WHO ARE FLYING! It only makes customers feel safe and not distracted by the strudest . You rolled this out like this was major news. My name badge and color of my uniform indentified my title and the department I worked in. A professional working environment is no place for someone to express themselves. Why not just make it a retraining program for prisoners. I can already see the flight attendants rolling out of bed with their pajama bottoms and a tee shirt slippers instead of shoes and possibly a ball cap to top that runway style similar if not the same as Walmart customers but then again, it seems to be the go to style for a lot of people these days. We already know, just like skin color or hair type has nothing to do with what's inside your heart, so is the same for tattoos and piercings. This builds respect and trust, something in short supply in these uncivilized times. Theyll have the 20-30-something employees expressing themselves with nail United could better use their resources improving customer service and general operations. If i see UNITED Crew running around in rubber shoes and ther Crew bags with attached bags about time!! Last time I was on a United flight, a nasty female flight attendant threatened to have me removed (mid flightyes a real threat) because she skipped over me for drink service and I asked for a diet Coke. Commercial pilots will be allowed tattoos in some airlines as long as they are covered. Safety should be the ONLY priority. A person's soul & personality identifies who they are. We simply had to agree to come to work in the company provided " uniform" and have All tattoos hidden and piercings hidden. Look Professional. Ive seen crews of 4 that dont even look like either of them work for the same company. At the point of dissatifaction, they should be looking for employment elsewhere, making room for people who don't mind being paid to adhere to the standards. I enjoy bending over backwards and going that extra mile for someone who is truly nice, has a smile, and doesnt feel the whole world revolves around them. It's nice to see people being people, instead of corporate robots. The airline industry has always been one whose employees presented a professional appearance in a society that borders on anything goes . This outdated boomer mentality about I never had a choice, so they shouldnt have a choice is antiquated and behind the times. Soon United will run out of 24/7 safe places for their whining weirdos. Asking for a friend! When you are off the clock then look however you prefer, but please not on my flight. Airlines should look to the armed forces for uniform standards. United continues to be committed to inclusion and supporting employees to be their full selves at work, which is why in 2021, the airline updated its appearance standards, moving away from gender-specific guidance and allowing customer-facing employees to represent themselves authentically through visible tattoos, nose piercings, The women who thinks this is okay should be fired! I once had a guy on a Spirit flight who had long nails, colored. You want your employees to walk a straight line, question nothing then allow them to show up looking like the way they want. They do this while they harass employees daily. Tattoos are used to identify drug users and gangs per their perception and now they have tats?All the visual negativity placed out front. neat dressing is not an objection, the It says a lot and means a lot. United should have re branded to Continental's model. All one needs to do is visit large retail chains to get a look at expression. Given was was presented in this story, I really don't think you are going to notice a huge change in appearance. Standards should be saved forthe actual service provided, not someone's individual choices on things like tattoos, makeup, hairstyle, etc. They command top dollar and are REAL premium airlines, mostly Asian and Middle Eastern seem to have a different philosophy. How clean the planes are, the mechanical aspect as well as the pilots etc. It is a purposeful intent to win and maintain that cuatomer rationship. How is showing tattoos and piercings considering not professional? Please don't touch me because I know where your finger has been! This is exactly why we need onboard alcohol service to resume ASAP. Find something else. Ive always dreamed of being a flight attendant and got a chance to back in 2015 with republic airways. How is United still in business. Theyll have the 20-30-something employees expressing themselves with nail polish and lipstick on a man, over-the-top (literally) hairdos on men and women, bangles and jewelry that probably wont look professional, tattoos (some of which are political messages or obscene images) and then youll have the over-50 group who will still be conservative all working in the same spaces (ticket counters, gates, airplanes) but looking like two entirely different set United is being divisive. Flexible dates. Appearance :- Positive body language and well groomed. They should work on employee attitudes. EVERYONE INTO CONSIDERATION! I remember some police precincts not employing a person if they have visible tattoos. Audrey Peters, 25, took to TikTok to share her dismay at being asked to move to a middle seat in order for a family to sit together. You don't get a second chance to make a first impression. I seen a person using there bra as a sports bra. Although I have the option to dress any way I like, I choose to look nice every time. Companies need to set standards and if employees don't want to meet them then you do not want them working for you. Join to apply for the Flight Attendant ORD role at GoJet Airlines Regionals What does it say about Maori person with a tribal tatoo? unkemptness of hair appearance is For those pilots with an unrestricted Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate, If not it will remain a pissing match. The man, who was Please note , to those who have the tattoo, are gay , piercings etc you are my brothers and sisters who I do whole heartedly respect and admire. Those wearing conservative clothing will probably be offloaded lest the masses get testy about it. Audrey Peters, 25, took to TikTok to share her dismay at being asked to move to a middle seat in order for a family to sit together. And the airlines will back that up how exactly? Do you think your barber or hairstylist is not professional because they have tattoos? I believe you will see more airlines relaxing their policy to avoid a lawsuit. Express yourself on your own time. Most people flying just want courteous service from people who conduct themselves like a professional. Then as of later this year these relaxed standards will apply to other work groups, including pilots, ramp service employees, etc. Save the "personal expression" for off hours. They don't care if you have ink that can be covered by your uniform. Without that standard, this airline is going to look weird. United has zero standards. Given was was presented in this story, I really don't think you are going to notice a huge change in appearance. This is a work environment not a picnic. Someone who tries to do that probably doesn't do the research needed Take this from someone who has roomed the world raised 2 Generations. In a job where appearance is the first impact the customers receive, looking professional should be a top priority. Thanos United for pointing out some of our own implicit biases. Add the attitude, showy pride and drama = CLASSLESS. Rather than having United reflect the multiples of standards being celebrated in our new society, I would suggest that United have a standard of excellence that their employees agree to support, as a condition of employment. Y'all don't think that PEOPLE should be treated like actual PEOPLE. professional. Im 57 years old but recently my daughter changed my mind about some things. Not giving a crap about knowing what the service folks are or are not regarding gender expression. You can choose what to wear and how to express yourself on your time at home NOT at work How will we be able to tell the difference between passengers and employees? Then when you get off work, go express yourself all you want! This is your J-O-B. It's like all the retrogrades on VFTW came over here en masse to get all their conservative outrage out. They've already gotten rid of actually serving customers. People have different tattoos for different reasons. Stop lowering the bar! Good by America. They also have slides in their offices last I heard. WebHurry Up! Shakespeare wrote apparel oft proclaims the man, and Mark Twain said, Clothes make a man. Today we are name calling ,shooting innocent people turning the world upside down. WebIn two years, you'll begin flying as an airline pilot with your United Express carrier. In other words, he judged her based on her looks, as most of us would, and then got to know her Maybe Well it's about time. Yet Lufthansa has the worst services from first to economy with a full look that includes careless smug german prick of flight crew that dont give a damn whatsoever ! But nothing on the head/face/neck or hand. They call it a uniform for a reason. Now anything goes. Nose rings, tattoos and nail polish? When you are on the job you should dress respectfully. When it comes to hair length, all United employees will be able to wear their hair down, as long as its shoulder length or shorter. Yes it is. Ill be watching Delta and American and if one or the other doesnt follow United on this, I plan on taking my business to them. Or is this all going to go over your head because youre too narcissistic to learn how to be a decent human being? Appearance requirements werent difficult. I don't understand why some contributors here are pushing back so hard. This program is Absurd. And did they gladly accept these paid positions, fully aware of the requirements? Pilots are I couldn't care less if FA have tattoos and piercings! When these airline employees sought employment with the airline, were they made aware of the standards for dressing? I won't stop flying but I will be sure to bury my head in a book that will lift my spirits. WebVisible body and facial piercings are not permitted, e.g. Trust, some will take this to the extreme, and when called out for it by management, they will cry out prejudice. United should focus on their service. Travelers. Nobody actually cares about you or your multi-racial same sex partner! Employees are happier if they can bring their whole selves to their work, and happier employees make for happier customers. What Can You Do If You Have a Tattoo and Want to Become a Pilot? Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. Today, Virgin has announced a new visible tattoo policy. The contract faces a vote by rank-and-file pilots that will conclude in mid-July. I love America and Americans. We do this job because we love what we do, and we love people. Thank you! We are not street kids on an airline trying to show what type of person you are to serve the Is the professional manner and look professional. Then go to the circus or Las Vegas; you can see all the oddities you want without paying for an airline ticket. I just had one question and Thank goodness for Australian, Asian, European and Middle East carriers with this in mind. Economy. Personally I Would Not Use United. While it is good that a company treats all employees fair and to have policies to be fair to all employees, you are 100% wrong about employees being able to express themselves at work. Has nothing to do with hygienic reasons and jsut because you shave your hair on the sides or your face, does NOT mean it's NOT an ugly or non appealing appearance! Did they spend any time listening to them? There is a justice in the world :), I don't think i need a new hobby i think they need a new job maybe something in the construction industry. ford f350 factory radio replacement; heald college courses catalog; how to I could not believe this was the type of person who alaska wanted to represent there brand. I mean come on. Tell me how many Maouri flight attendants you have encountered! I Do not. Shame! I can't see how this can be anything but a positive change for culture. " After all , just look around at the your fellow passengers. As a former UAL flight attendant I was told many times how professional our customers thought we looked (95'-05"), they appreciated that we took pride in looking clean, kept. I work at a hospital but I dont wear my gay flag pin at work. Until United stops with their systematic firing & harassment, Im sure customer experience would be automatic. I dont think its this stuffy suit clad place youre making up in your head. Id rather be served by a friendly, helpful person who looks like a death metal concert attendee than a sour lump. One would then wonder if this is the face of the company, does the rest of their service show the same level of lack of care. Im 57 years old but recently my daughter changed my mind about some things. United is downgrading their Global standards. My daughter is a 25year old professional with blue and purple hair and the color certainly doesn't take away from her intelligence or her great work ethic. Step 3: Or, book a new flight through United.com and use the 10-digit code in the Offer Code section upon checkout. Until United stops with United is full of crap. Really fraudulent behaviour towards customers. Some have enormous diamond earrings and others craft show paper ones. I don't curse at somebody wearing a golden cross around there neck, just because they are heavily religious. They were hired to perform a service. Its America, we still have a choice and it never will be Untied again. United Airlines, you're a company, running a businessflying people where they need to be. Remember the support animal disaster. So, I am in favor of allowing them to be more expressive. How about the good old days when the Sturtesses were very attractive and not old hags like you see now. Poor customer service and poor standards. Now, who will decide which tattoos are 'non-offensive'? Aviation Industry: The airline will operate three weekly non-stop flights from its hub Don Mueang International Airport (DMK) in Bangkok to Hyderabad in the Winter 2023 schedule, and increase frequency to four weekly non-stop flights in the Summer 2023 schedule. That means setting a standard for all employees so that nothing becomes political or some new fad, cultural or fashion statement. I have never been triggered by tatoos can't even imagine what that's like. Start hiring attractive flight attendants, of both sexes. After all , just look around at the your fellow passengers. Tattoos and nose piercings are not professional and to a great number of people it is offensive. What Can You Do If You Have a Tattoo and Want to Become a Pilot? Now that And right now the USA FAs by and large are not doing it well. United Airlines Updating Employee Appearance Standards To Be More Inclusive, United revising employee appearance standards. An employer has a right to impose dress requirements on their employees as a part of the employment agreement. It's just the beginning of the excuses of "I look like I just got out of bed look", and some will use that. WebAs an employee of the airline, you will have privileges to fly as a nonrevenue passenger on any flight you choose. Mentally you seem to be living in the dark ages based on all of your comments on this thread. I would be happy seeing employees who looked like they bathed. I don't think he really cares about the flight. Webunited airlines flight attendant interview process 2022 19 3407 . ATP encourages potential airline candidates to consider the impact of that policy on their future employment. Passengers have to look at attendants for hours, so please for heaven's sake have some standards and say no to nose rings and tattoos. If you have a tattoo (no matter how small) in one of the areas outlined above, most airlines will not allow you to become Cabin Crew with them. Every time I go into a Kroger, Safeway, or other chain grocery store (unionized or not well paid or not) the employees are a bunch of sour, unfriendly lumps. Whats next, ear and lip plates, bathing suits, flip flops and speedos. An elderly mother opted to travel in business class to be closer to her son. There should be a length on finger nails and hair not to the floor. So employer a.k.a. Now days people who fly tend to smell they look like they havent showered for days.! No respect for their jobs, employers and fellow employees not to mention the customers. I still travel regularly and still observe these standards on Foreign Carriers. I pay for professionalism. That goes for any jobdress neatly and be The academy, a flight school the airline purchased in 2020 and rebranded as its own, is part of Uniteds longer-term answer to the ongoing pilot shortage. Companies do not own us! We are an Global international Airline . Dress speaks volumes. Im more interested in the flight crews ability to safety evacuate passengers from a plane, training for medical emergencies in flight , or quickly leap into action of crisis / issue that is unfolding mid air . Airlines with the exception of Virgin/Alaska were safe places against these eye sores until now. Im so happy its changing!!! Lots & Lots of Jobs in Airline & Aviation , Interested in being a of the Airlines family. Ive had way too many meals with their hair hanging over my tray. This is your J-O-B. It is important to maintain a HIGH appearance standard in order to deliver our customers consistency when they travel. Epic failure! These new rules is going to be a disaster. UNITED is a good example, comparing ex Frankfurt or Hong Kong based Crew to the ones from the US. What next? This is a welcome change. I prefer the Old Standards no piercing leave that for personal time. Professionally dressed employees looked appropriate and not like the sleaze bags who are flying and causing undue harm to others. Foreign airlines will continue to tank well above any American flag carrier airlines because of Oh boy, here we go again..as much as I and anyone else likes tattoos and piercings, there's a time and place for that. Company should have employees look professional, well dress, hair put back and presentable! May 29, 2021 by by Also, the workplace is not the place to "express yourself"because expressing yourself could hurt the business as a whole. 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