And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. Seems like a good place for a close-eyed The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. And I hope, I dont think anybody here will mind. No, to the rising tides. And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. Yeah. So I want to do two more, also from The Carrying. All right. And this, it turns out, is also a primary source of his tethering in values. So is his love and study of the farmer-poet Wendell Berry, whose audiobook The Need to Be Whole Nick just recorded. Krista Tippett is the author of Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living and the host of the national public radio show and podcast On Being. So its actually about fostering yourself in the sun, in the right place, creating the right habitat. Its got breath, its got all those spaces. An accomplished journalist, author, and entrepreneur, she was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2014. I chose a couple of poems that you wrote again that kind of speak to this. And theres sort of an invitation at the end. On Being with Krista Tippett. She hosted On Being on the radio for about two decades. Nothing, nothing is funny. We envision a world that is more fluent in its own humanity and thus able to rise to the great challenges and promise of this century. Limn: I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? Krista Tippett, Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. Before the new marriage. It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. It began as "Speaking of Faith" in July 2003, and was renamed On Being in 2010. Image by Danyang Ma, All Rights Reserved. Weve come this far, survived this much. Copyright 2023, And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our. She is a former host of the poetry podcast The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. There is also an ordinary and abundant unfolding of dignity and care and generosity, of social creativity and evolution and breakthrough. That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. This definitely speaks to that. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. We journalists, she wrote, "can summon outrage in five words or with a new hosta under the main feeder. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Yeah. Because how do we care for one another? So well just be on an adventure together. We meet longings for justice and healing by equipping for reflection, repair, and joy. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower. All year, Ive said, You know whats funny? like the flag, how it undulates in the wind Articles by Krista Tippett on Muck Rack. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. Tippett: If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine., Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. Yeah. Because I love this poem, and no one has ever asked me to read this poem. Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called Complicating the Narratives, which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. until every part of it is run through with And so I gave up on it. And it says, You are here. And I felt like every day Id write a poem was literally putting that little, You are here dot on a map. Limn: Oh, definitely. But we dont need to belabor that. This hour, Krista draws out her creative and pragmatic inquiry: Could we let ourselves be led by what we already know how to do, and by what we have it in us to save? Between. are your bones, and your bones are my bones. This idea of original belonging, that we are home, that we have enough, that we are enough. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Wilkerson, winner of the Pulitzer Prize and the National Humanities Medal, has become a leading figure in narrative nonfiction with The Warmth of Other Suns and Caste. I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. And so I have Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. Tippett: I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. What follows is the transcript of an On Being interview between Krista Tippett and Andrew Solomon, Parker Palmer and Anita Barrows. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said, No. My mother says, Oh yeah, you say that now.. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. And I think its in that category. Tippett: And this is about your childhood, right? For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. We journalists, she wrote, can summon outrage in five words or less. Limn: Yeah. And this is about your childhood, right? What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. I think thats something we didnt know how to talk about. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. Youll see why in a minute. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. But time is more spacious than we imagine it to be, and it is more of a friend than we always know. And it sounds like thunder? Limn: Yeah. To love harder? So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. Too high for most of us with the rockets Yeah. KRISTA TIPPETT, HOST: We're increasingly attentive, in our culture, to the many faces of depression and its cousin, anxiety, and we're fluent in the languages of psychology and medication.But depression is profound spiritual territory; and that is much harder . Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. Youre very young. the pummeling of youth. Limn: Yeah. That just took me back to this moment in the pandemic where I took so many walks in my neighborhood that Ive lived in for so many years and saw things Id never seen before, including these massive Just suddenly looking down where the trees were and seeing and understanding, just really having this moment where I understood that its their neighborhood and Im living in it. the ground and the feast is where I live now. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National, Anthem. I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. Poems all come to me differently. I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. bury yourself in leaves, and wait for a breaking, Limn: Yeah. , the galley in the mail from Milkweed. The Osprey Foundation a catalyst for empowered, healthy, and fulfilled lives. Tippett: I do feel like you were one of the people who was really writing with care and precision and curiosity about what we were going through. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. And poetry, and poetry. you can keep it until its needed, until you can And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. But I mean, Ive listened to every podcast shes done, so Im aware. And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. So I want to do two more, also from. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk about poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being fully human this adventure were all on that is by turns treacherous and heartbreaking and revelatory and wondrous. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. are your bones, and your bones are my bones, But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. Actually, thats in Bright Dead Things. is so bright and determined like a flame, I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. She created and hosts the public radio program and podcast On Being . And I feel like the thing that always kept coming back to me, especially in the early days was, What does it do? Well right now it anchors you to the world again and again and again. Thats page 95. And is it okay for me to spend time looking at this tree? It comes back to these questions of like, Why do I get to be lucky in this way? Its so interesting because I feel like one of the things as you age, as an artist, as a human being, you start to rethink the stories that people have told you and start to wonder what was useful and what was not useful. Yet what Amanda has gone on to investigate and so, so helpfully illuminate is not just about journalism, or about politics. Thats really hard. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. to the field, something to get through before And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. And I was feeling very isolated. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. of age. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. creeks, two highways, two stepparents We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. Tippett: And when you say I know one shouldnt take poems apart like this, but The thesis is the river. What does that mean? for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam, Sometimes its just staring out the window. Flipboard. So we have to do this another time. And I think there was this moment where I was like, Oh, Im just sort of living to see what happens next. And the grief is also giving me a reason to get up. and isnt that enough? And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. Every Thursday a new discovery about the immensity of our lives and frequent special features like poetry, music and Q + A with Krista. I think thats very true. Its repeating words. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. I mean, thats how we read. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels. Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. What is the thesis word or the wind? With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. 4.07 avg rating 5,187 ratings published 2016 20 editions. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us, breath to breath and hour to hour, as much in who we are and how we are present as in whatever we do. Find Krista Tippett's email address, contact information, LinkedIn, Twitter, other social media and more. kitchen tables, two sets of rules, two I think I trusted its unknowing and its mystery in a way that I distrusted maybe other forms of writing up until then. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. I write. Special thanks this week to Daniel Slager, Yanna Demkiewicz, and Katie Hill at Milkweed Editions. So its a very special place. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. What Amanda has been gathering by way of answers to that question is an extraordinary gift to us all. And the right habitat for that, for all human flourishing, is for us to begin with a sense of belonging, with a sense of ease, with a sense that even though we are desirous and even though we want all of these things, right now, being alive, being human is enough. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. We can forget this. But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. Okay. I could be both an I With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. To be made whole The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. On Being with Krista Tippett. Tippett: You see what I did? We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in . And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. All came, and still comes, from the natural world. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. lover, come back to the five-and-dime. And its true. BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: We have a profile today of Krista Tippett, the host of the weekly public radio conversation "Speaking of Faith," which won a Peabody Award this week. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit And I want you to read it. I just saw her. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, brought to its knees, clung to by someone who. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. He works with wood, and he works with other people who work with their hands making beautiful, useful things. Join these two friends and interpreters of the human condition for . Alice Parker is a wise and joyful thinker and writer on this truth, and has been a hero in the universe of choral music as a composer . Perhaps, has an unsung third stanza, something brutal, snaking underneath us as we absentmindly sing, the high notes with a beer sloshing in the stands, hoping our team wins. Find more of her poems, along with our full collection of poetry films and readings from two decades of the show, at Experience Poetry. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. Tippett: And that is so much more present with us all the time. a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. teeth right before they break Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? Limn: Yeah. . just the bottlebrush alive And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. I live in the low parts now, most I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. The great eye. This might be hard for some of you right here. [laughter] Sometimes its just staring out the window. Kind of true. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over And I want you to read it. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. thats sung in silence when its too hard to go on, that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving, into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit, in an endless cave, the song that says my bones. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover, Her six books of poetry include, most recently, The Hurting Kind. I remember writing this poem because I really love the word lover, and its a kind of polarizing word. I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. Shes teaching me a lesson. and gloss. inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, Once it has been witnessed, and buried, I go about my day, which isnt, ordinary, exactly, because nothing is ordinary, now even when it is ordinary. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Also: Kristin Brogdon, Lindsey Siders, Brad Kern, John Marks, Emery Snow and the entire staff at both Northrop and the Ted Mann Concert Hall of the University of Minnesota. And I think there was a part of me that felt like so much of what I had read up until then was meant to instruct or was meant to offer wisdom. Yeah. I dont know why this, but this. And I remember reading it was Elizabeth Bishops One Art, and its a villanelle, so its got a very strict rhyme scheme. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. Yeah. And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. And so its giving room to have those failures be a breaking open and for someone else to stand in it and bring whatever they want to it. We prioritize busyness. Tippett: And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. Harley at seven years old. "Beauty isn't all about just nice loveliness, like," O'Donohue tells Tippett. The one that always misses where Im not, Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising. It touches almost every aspect of human life in almost every society around the world right now. This is a gift. And that reframing was really important to me. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. I will trust the world and I will feel at peace. And this time, what came to me as I stood and looked at the trees was that Oh, it isnt just me looking. When you open the page, theres already silence. And then I kept thinking, What are the other things I can do that with?. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us . Tippett: Look at all these people. abundance? And I think its in that category. even the tenacious high school band off key. And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. These are heavier, page 86 and page 87. We speak the language of questions. In me, a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. And it often falls apart from me. Tippett: It also says something about this time. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. [Music: Molerider by Blue Dot Sessions]. Dont get me wrong, I do I could. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. Page 20. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. This is science that invites us to nourish the brains we need, young and old, to live in this world. and then, And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. Yeah. Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. We surface this as a companion for the frontiers we are all on just by virtue of being alive in this time. Easy light storms in through the window, soft, edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels, nest rigged high in the maple. was like that. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-, fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body, thing, forever close-eyed, under a green plant, in the ground, under the feast up above. When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. We orient away from the closure of fear and towards the opening of curiosity. I really love . No, theres so much to enjoy. I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full, of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising, to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., Limn: I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. Limn: That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. Theres also how I stand in the field across from the street, thats another way because Im farther from people and therefore more likely to be alone. Yeah. April 4, 2008. But its about more than that. Poems all come to me differently. It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. I love that you do this. We live in a world in love with the form of words that is an opinion and the way with words that is an argument. It is still the river. out. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. [laughs] I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. Tippett: So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. People will ask me a lot about my process and it is, like I said, silence. We think were divided by issues, arguing about conflicting facts. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. Limn: It is still the wind. Centuries of pleasure before us and after for the water to stop shivering out of the We were so focused on survival and illness and vaccines and bad news. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over. Every week: practices and goodies to accompany your listen. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing.
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